I actually desperately want a Honda Civic 

"JR1" (type35bugatti) 03/30/2016 at 16:56 • Filed to: Honda Civic

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I never thought in a million years I would want a base model Honda Civic. But this car looks outstanding, it has every tech goodie you could ever need, it gets amazing gas mileage, and it makes me think there is hope in the world for cheap and cheerful transportation. I am not really sure this car has a fault and the Civic Si is going to be a real show stopper if it is half as good as this new Civic. I usually try to stick to American cars but I think I would take this Civic over any new small or midsize on the market.

Did I mention from this angle it kinda looks like an A7?

Opposite Locksmith > JR1 03/30/2016 at 16:59

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Hey man if it gets you going then more power to ya!!!!

JR1 > Opposite Locksmith 03/30/2016 at 16:59

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I just don’t understand the draw I have for it. Like a mouth to a flame!

ttyymmnn > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:00

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I test drove one two weeks ago and didn’t like it. I think it’s too big, and I found the handling sluggish. I also didn’t like the CVT. Of course, your mileage may vary. The tech stuff was impressive, though. We ended up getting a 2013 Civic EX-L.

TylerJ > Opposite Locksmith 03/30/2016 at 17:01

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Well, unless it’s horsepower he wants.

Opposite Locksmith > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:01

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Hahaha I've never had the urge to put a lit match in my mouth?

Opposite Locksmith > TylerJ 03/30/2016 at 17:02

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Hey it's not everyone's first priority

Bytemite > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:03

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Okay, if you like it I guess. It looks like they welded a Crossover front end onto a mid-size sedan body. Look how tall that hood is and that stupid chrome bar grille just makes it look even worse. It’s also gotten so big it’s a midsize car now. I liked the EF and EG Civics and maybe the EK too for being fun to drive while being basic transportation, but after that they became boring, watered down cheap set of wheels.

JR1 > ttyymmnn 03/30/2016 at 17:03

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The CVT could be cured with a manual and I actually heard it wasn’t that bad but I haven’t driven one so I really can’t have a say.

Congrats on the 13 that will give you miles of trouble free transportation

JR1 > Opposite Locksmith 03/30/2016 at 17:04

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Haha definitely meant moth.

interstate366, now In The Industry > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:04

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I think they look awful in person, but that’s just my opinion. I saw one in that bright blue today and cringed.

JR1 > TylerJ 03/30/2016 at 17:05

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I do enjoy horsepower but that is what the weekend car is for!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Opposite Locksmith 03/30/2016 at 17:05

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Really? Then you’re not nor

JR1 > Bytemite 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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As far as cheap transportation goes though I am not sure you can beat the Civic.

dogisbadob > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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The Civic is American, being made in Ohio ;)

Too bad no more two-tier dash. Also, just wait a few months for the 2017 models, so you can get the turbo with a stick :)

ttyymmnn > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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There was nothing wrong with the CVT, I just didn’t care for it. But I’d also never driven one before, and I’m an old fart. I’m sure I’d get used to it.

JR1 > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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Oh really? I think they look even better going down the road

dogisbadob > ttyymmnn 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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The turbo manual combo is coming soon ;)

JR1 > dogisbadob 03/30/2016 at 17:06

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I know! I live in Ohio. I wonder if the factory does tours?

JR1 > ttyymmnn 03/30/2016 at 17:07

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I have never driven a CVT either so I am not really sure what the big difference is.

RyanFrew > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:08

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When they aren’t evacuating it?

JR1 > RyanFrew 03/30/2016 at 17:10

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Why would they be evacuating the factory?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:13

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I keep seeing them in person and they’re so damn eye catching. If they pull through with the manual/turbo combo one will find its rightful place on my “potential next car/first adult car” list.

Bytemite > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:15

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Cheap transportation is everywhere. It depends what you want paired with cheap transportation. Do you want lots of room in a sedan body? That’s like the one thing this Civic has going for it right now. It got really big, so it has lots of space inside. But it also got really big, so it handles worse, gets less mpg than it should, and that weird descent from the high hood down to the lower beltline is cringeworthy.

Do you want cheap and fun or cheap and stylish transportation? Then there’s a better choice in the Mazda3. I mean, I’m the last person to kiss Mazda’s ass for any car except the Miata, but the new Mazda3 looks so damn good. It’s like when the Elantra debuted in 2010 and showed what a compact economy car can look like...the Mazda3 took it a step further in 2015. It looks like it could be a RWD car, the proportions and hood to dash ratio is so uncompromising for a FWD car. The lines flow like water down every inch of that car. The lines on this Civic? Like I said, crossover front end, sedan body. Very weird crossover point happening at the start of the windshield.

spanfucker retire bitch > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:16

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I don’t if they do tours of the factory itself, but they have an “experience” building as part of their huge ass fucking campus. Drove by it during a business trip I took over the summer to their Ohio plant.

Didn’t have time to go inside, but it’s probably got all kinds of Honda history in there.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > ttyymmnn 03/30/2016 at 17:16

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Smart choice getting a 13. That still has the normal 5 speed auto!

I leased a 13 Civic LX. When the 14 came out, I drove one just to feel the CVT and really disliked it. The engine in that car didn’t work well with a CVT

ttyymmnn > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 03/30/2016 at 17:18

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The 5 speed auto was one of the things I really liked. And even though it’s not the most powerful engine, it still feels light on its feet. I think the 2016, even with its more powerful engine, is too heavy. It just felt like it wanted to go straight.

ttyymmnn > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:19

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Think “no shifting.” Like I said, it drives fine, and you can change the mapping for more power or more economy. I’m just a traditionalist. However, I’m sure the CVT is the wave of the future, and I’ll have to deal with it eventually.

V8VespaStoppie > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:19

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Some one called in a bomb threat.

ttyymmnn > dogisbadob 03/30/2016 at 17:20

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I know, but I couldn’t wait. We needed to get a new car. And I’m glad we did .

JR1 > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/30/2016 at 17:23

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I think it is definitely a possibility that they will. And I am right behind you in line if they do.

TylerJ > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:24

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I was just making a play on words on the “more power to you” sentence.

My current car has all of 140whp so I don’t complain about vehicles missing it.

JR1 > Bytemite 03/30/2016 at 17:25

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We totally disagree on styling.

As for handling I am not sure how the Civic handles but I imagine it can’t be terrible.

TylerJ > Opposite Locksmith 03/30/2016 at 17:25

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I was just making a play on words on the “more power to you” sentence.

My current car has all of 140whp so I don’t complain about vehicles missing it.

JR1 > spanfucker retire bitch 03/30/2016 at 17:26

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I am so close by I think I might just have to visit one time for the heck of it if they do have stuff. Just looked on google maps and the plant and campus are massive.

JR1 > V8VespaStoppie 03/30/2016 at 17:27

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Really? I did not hear that

V8VespaStoppie > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:32

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Yup, crazy stuff. http://jalopnik.com/2-000-workers-…

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:33

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Si life!

spanfucker retire bitch > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:40

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It is unbelievably huge. They have their own dedicated thruway going into the place and I believe even a dedicated interstate exit.

I figured going there that being an automotive facility it would be massive, but I wasn’t mentally prepared for just how fucking big it is.

Also, be prepared to see every single Honda employee wearing a white lab-style coat.

Bytemite > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:48

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Well there’s terrible, and there’s severely lacking in terms of what you might be used to as an enthusiast. What is your current DD?

Zohaibman72 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:48

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Screw the haters, you like any four door honda on this site, and they will dislike it basically. I drove it, it’s amazing. It feels sporty and alive, even in the non-turbo. It’s been getting alot of postive reviews on websites because it has an old honda feel when it comes to the drive, which is true. Not old Honda Civic, but old accord (it’s gigantic compared to other civics). My only real complaint is how far the side mirrors are.

Also the interior is amazing, the 2012-2015 Civic had an awful mess of an interior. This is much better. My favourite civic Interior is still my model year (2006-2011) but this is a step in the right direction. And because of Honda, you still get alot of goodies in the base.

JR1 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/30/2016 at 17:49

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The draw is tempting! It is a personal contender right now for sure.

Zohaibman72 > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/30/2016 at 17:50

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Good looking or not they definitely stand out in the competition, in my opinion. I love the way they look, and in a segment where everything is slowly molding into the same car in terms of styling, the Civic stands out. I feel like mostly every gen of civic stands out in the crowd.

JR1 > spanfucker retire bitch 03/30/2016 at 17:51

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Really? They wear coats? That is awesome

JR1 > Bytemite 03/30/2016 at 17:52

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A 2000 4x4 S10. I assume anything is probably a massive improvement in the handling department

JR1 > Zohaibman72 03/30/2016 at 17:53

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I think it is great news that the new Civic went back to the traditional dash personally. As much as I think the HUD was cool I don’t think I would enjoy it when I drive down the road

Zohaibman72 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:58

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My civic doesn’t have a traditional speedo, but it doesn’t bother me. It has a traditional RPM gauge to make up for it. It makes the car seem higher-end than it is, a lot of people who don’t know about cars who come in my car think it’s futuristic or something.

spanfucker retire bitch > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:59

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Even the receptionist. It’s some work ethic mantra something or other from corporate. All of their offices and facilities all over the world all have the same requirement.

RyanFrew > JR1 03/30/2016 at 17:59

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They evacuated this afternoon due to a bomb threat. See Jalopnik FP

JR1 > Zohaibman72 03/30/2016 at 18:00

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I will admit it does look futuristic

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > dogisbadob 03/30/2016 at 18:25

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I thought the North American Civic was made in Alliston, Ontario.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > JR1 03/30/2016 at 18:29

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I really really really like the new Civic. BUT - it needs to be a hatch. I though it *was* a hatch when I first saw it in real life. Even once I saw the trunk open my brain wouldn’t let me understand that it wasn’t a hatch.

Awesome otherwise, perhaps my fav Civic ever (certainly in the last decade).

Nymphicus Hollandicus > JR1 03/30/2016 at 18:44

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It is quite a looker and a coupe or hatch with the turbo and 6-speed would be something I’d buy a few years from now, I saw a bright green coupe at the NYIAS and thought it looked pretty cool.
Honda has been rolling out some pretty good products recently though I think Mazda would always be more fun to drive.

jkm7680 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 18:49

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I personally hate them. They’re going way more upscale than they really need to.

not for canada - australian in disguise > JR1 03/30/2016 at 18:50

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I REALLY like the new Civic, but it’s a tough choice for me between the Civic and the Forte (especially the SX-T, which is probably the closest thing to a hot hatch that Kia makes)

And it comes with a proper hatchback. But, when the Type-R version of the new Civic comes out and the hatch as well, it’ll be even tougher.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > JR1 03/30/2016 at 19:07

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Srong wit chu?

Chasaboo > JR1 03/30/2016 at 19:25

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Save some money, get a Honda Fit.

Good luck finding a manual though. For some reason they’re like all CVTs at this point. Weird.

Bytemite > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:00

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...yeah in your case you’d be impressed with a Malibu’s handling.

E92M3 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:05

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I’ve seen quite a few on the roads here, seems to be selling quite well. I’ve seen more new civics than I have HRV’s

JR1 > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 03/30/2016 at 20:13

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The Civic hasn’t done a hatch in the US in at least a decade though right?

JR1 > Nymphicus Hollandicus 03/30/2016 at 20:14

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I am kinda hoping the Si is NA because they have had such high revving engines throughout the companies history I would hate to see that go away

JR1 > jkm7680 03/30/2016 at 20:15

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No such thing as too upscale as long as you also have cheap and cheerful

JR1 > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/30/2016 at 20:15

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The new Civic’s interior looks a lot better in my opinion

jkm7680 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:16

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Well, there kind is.

Honda is trying to be not what Honda is. The Civic has always been a cheap car, they’re trying to make it a figuratively “expensive” car. That and I’ll bet the reliability tanks after a year or so.

JR1 > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 03/30/2016 at 20:17

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Shall I sacrifice a land yacht to the gods of cushy and comfortable rides for forgiveness?

JR1 > Chasaboo 03/30/2016 at 20:17

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I don’t like the look of the Fit

JR1 > Bytemite 03/30/2016 at 20:18

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But I can climb a mountain!

JR1 > E92M3 03/30/2016 at 20:20

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Me too which is surprising

JR1 > jkm7680 03/30/2016 at 20:21

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If the reliability tanks in a year I will eat my own shoe.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:21

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I love it too, we're getting a blue turbo once we close on our house

jkm7680 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:22

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Let us watch and see.....

JR1 > jkm7680 03/30/2016 at 20:22

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Come back to this thread in a year if it does.

jkm7680 > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:23

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Ok, I will set myself a reminder. See you in a year.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > JR1 03/30/2016 at 20:39

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I would hope so too, but with emissions and fuel economy standards, I doubt it’ll happen.

dogisbadob > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 03/30/2016 at 20:42

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It’s made in both Alliston, ON; and Greensburg, IN.

I didn’t realize they didn’t make it in Ohio anymore. oops :p

not for canada - australian in disguise > JR1 03/30/2016 at 21:36

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Now that they’ve gotten rid of the dual-screen setup, I kinda agree. I prefer the look of Kia’s wheel oddly enough though.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > dogisbadob 03/30/2016 at 21:50

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They are now making the NSX in Ohio. They also make the CR-V in Alliston.

dogisbadob > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 03/30/2016 at 22:04

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cool

boxrocket > JR1 03/30/2016 at 23:34

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It looks like a shrunken, crumpled crosstour.

The audio volume buttons are, well, buttons , not a rotary knob, and they’re much worse in person.

That said...

I’d move the civic up out of the dregs to 2nd or 3rd best/most-desirable in the segment. I'd still take a Mazda3 hatch or Focus (ST or RS, comparatively) over a civic. Much more interesting than the corolla, and far beyond the Snuze.

E92M3 > JR1 03/31/2016 at 00:49

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It is considering how long the HR-V has been out. I thought those would sell almost as much as the CRV. Guess people don’t like the CVT.

JR1 > E92M3 03/31/2016 at 08:19

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I didn't think they had been about long

E92M3 > JR1 03/31/2016 at 11:19

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Not really that long, but 6 months head start on the new Civic.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > JR1 03/31/2016 at 18:15

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Didn’t like it at all when first pictures were released, but the design has been steadily growing on me. Even if the chrome unibrow is ugly and the headlights kinda creep me out.

JR1 > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 03/31/2016 at 18:27

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Oh I think that is one of the best features of the car